167. B01[1]327(11)4 NORMAN EDWARD8 GILMORE (George Shafer7, John Wesley6, John5, Humphrey4, John3, ?2, ?1) was born on 18 Oct 1881 in Hays Co., TX. He died on 14 Nov 1942 in Bell Co., TX (Hilcrest Cem, Temple). He married Mary Elizabeth Edwards, daughter of Benjamin Riley Edwards, about 1905 in Hays Co., TX. She was born on 29 May 1881 in Floresville, Wilson Co., TX. She died on 23 Jan 1954 in Houston, Harris Co., TX (Buried in Hilcrest Cem, Temple, Bell Co., TX).
Notes for Norman Edward Gilmore:
“Interview with Norman Edward Gilmore’s grandson, Duck”
Norman Edward Gilmore was called “Pap” by his grandchildren and his wife was “Mam”. Duck’s fondest memory of Pap was that he was a cowboy. That breed of hard working, tough, never back down men who were the backbone of Texas at that time. In the time Duck knew him, he lived in a bunk house on the Frankie Ranch in Uvalde, Uvarlde Co., TX, and his job was to break the horses. According to Duck’s recollections, Pap never owned land of his own. Duck remembered he lived shortly in Bell Co., TX, first in Rogers, then in Pendleton where Duck’s dad, George Nolan Gilmore married Mildred Janette Forrest.
Pap died from an infected infury he aquired from breaking horses. Duck’s sister, Linnie, was about 2 or 3 years at the time, and Duck was about seven. Duck remembers that it was wintertime. Linnie’s daughter, Sherry Jo Anderson Castillo, who is a doctor, speculated Pap probably contracted gangrene as a result of the injury. He was not the type of man who would have sought medical help. Both Pap and Mam are buried in the Hillcrest Cemetary in Temple, Bell Co., TX.
Census:
1. 1910 Hays Co., TX
2. 1820 Hays Co., TX
Codes: BC, DC, T, P
Norman Edward Gilmore and Mary Elizabeth Edwards had the following children:
i. B01[1]327(11)41 GEORGE NOLAN9 GILMORE was born on 18 Nov 1907 in Hays Co., TX. He died on 01 Feb 1972 in Bell Co., TX. He married Mildred Janette Forrest on 03 Nov 1930 in Bell Co., TX. She was born on 30 Dec 1911 in Pendleton, Bell Co., TX. She died on 22 Jan 1990 in Temple, Bell Co., TX.
Notes for George Nolan Gilmore:
ii. B01[1]327(11)42 RICHARD NORMAN “DICK” GILMORE.
iii. B01[1]327(11)43 LESLIE ERVIN “PETE” GILMORE was born on 19 Jun 1910 in Hays Co., TX (Dripping Springs). He married HILDA EARL KOCH.
Interview with Leslie “Pete” Gilmore
Leslie “Pete” Gilmore was born 19 June 1910 in Dripping Springs, Hays County, TX. Paul “Peck” Gilmore, Pete’s cousin, remembers an Uncle Wash and Uncle Doc from Bastrop Co., TX which Pete doesn’t remember. All of Peck’s brothers are dead. Pete’s birth certificate was changed from baby Gilmore to Leslie Gilmore in the 1940’s. Pete was born at home which was seven miles from Dripping Springs going toward San Marcos, on Grandma Gilmore’s place. Dr. Shelton came in a buggy to deliver all three of Pete’s siblings. Pete’s DOB is wrong on his birth certificate. Tupie was born in Georgetown TX, on June 23, ????.
Pete’s family went to Rosburn, NM (I think Pete meant Roswell) in 1916 in a covered wagon to check out a homestead. If you live on a homestead for three years it becomes yours. Pete thinks this holds true today in NM. Norman Edward Gilmore, Pete’s dad did not like it so they came back to Hays Co., TX. They stayed for about two weeks. Pete remembers the trip vividly. They met a car on the trip that scared the mules. The trip took them three months one way. There’s a picture of the trip running around somewhere.
The Gilmore farm is where the Gallespie Ranch is now. Aunt Lou (Pete called her aunt Lou even though she was really his grandmother) had an axe she took down to the storm cellar. This was so she could get back out if the cellar ever caved.
Aunt Lou’s mother was Cherokee. (Author’s note: I haven’t been able to find any Cherokee blood in the family.) Great grandma Bryant (Martha Barringer Bryant) was short and stumpy. She looked like an indian.
Great grandpa Bryant (Stephen Henry Bryant) would let them drink a glass of homemade muskadine wine on occasion. He hid out during the Civil War because he didn’t believe in it and refused to fight.
Great grandma Bryant smoked a corn cob pipe and dipped snuff as did Grandma Gilmore (Sarah Louise Bryant Gilmore). Grandma lived up into her 80’s and died 15 July 1939 in Austin, TX. (Pete thought she was buried in Buda but she was actually buried next to Gatlin creek in the Gatlin cemetery near Dripping Springs, TX.) Pete went to the funeral in Austin but didn’t go to the cemetery.
Pete said that Grandpa (George Shafer Gilmore) died of cancer. His dad told him that one of the girls scratched him on the neck and it turned into skin cancer on the jugular and he bled. Pete knew nothing of John Wesley Gilmore, his great grandfather. (Which makes since as John Wesley Gilmore died before he was born.)
The Gilmore ranch was bought by George Shafer Gilmore. He owned a syrup mill and made syrup every summer. Pete used to drive the mule around a vat to stir the syrup. The syrup was loaded into gallon buckets and sold in Austin. Pete’s dad did the same thing.
Uncle Charlie lived on Mount Gainor. Uncle Will went to California. Grandma Lou stayed with Aunt Fannie who was a registered nurse and married to a Zapalac. A boy was a result of this marriage, George who lived in Houston. The boy George and Tupie were close. Fannie and her husband separated. Glenn (about Pete’s age) and Aubrey (who was younger) Garrett were the children of Aunt Drew who went to California around 1920. Nelson was the son of Aunt Mattie. He’s dead. Aunt Mattie had three girls—Lila, Daisy Nell, and Althea. Uncle Tom Massy was Pap’s cousin. He’s dead. He’s the only Massy that Pete remembers. A lot of Massys moved to Oklahoma. Mama had a sister named Mayoli (Mattie Viola Edwards Jenkens). (Mama was Mary Elizabeth Edwards). Edith and Nolan (George Nolan Gilmore) were born in 1907, the same year that Grandpa Gilmore (George Shafer) died. Ernestine, Tupie’s wife has all the Gilmore pictures. She’s living in Nebraska.
Pete said the Gilmore’s were English and Scottish. Grandma Gilmore started calling Leslie, Pete. Grandma Edward’s name was Henson before her marriage. (Mary Elizabeth Edward Gilmore’s mom, Amanda Henson Edwards).
This interview was conducted at Pete’s house on 18 Jan 1995 by Janet Anderson in Pasadena, TX.
iv. B01[1]327(11)44 TRUITT “TUPIE” GILMORE. He married ERNESTINE. She died in Living?.
168. B01[1]327(11)5 DONEA ETHEL8 GILMORE (George Shafer7, John Wesley6, John5, Humphrey4, John3, ?2, ?1) was born on 24 Mar 1886 in Hays Co., TX. She died on 27 Nov 1971 in Hays Co., TX (Phillips Cem). She married John F. Thielepape about 1910 in Hays Co., TX. He was born on 12 Oct 1886. He died on 10 Mar 1971 in Hays Co., TX (Phillips Cem).
Notes for John F. Thielepape:
Census:
1. 1920 Hays Co., TX
John F. Thielepape and Donea Ethel Gilmore had the following children:
i. B01[1]327(11)51 BRUCE9 THIELEPAPE was born on 01 Jan 1911 in Hays Co., TX. He died on 13 Oct 1959 in Hays Co., TX (Phillips Cemetery in Dripping Springs).
ii. B01[1]327(11)52 BERNICE THIELEPAPE was born about 1915 in Hays Co., TX.
iii. B01[1]327(11)53 JOHNNY THIELEPAPE was born in 1921 in Hays Co., TX. He died in 1990 in Hays Co., TX.
169. B01[1]327(11)6 MAUNA DRUE8 GILMORE (George Shafer7, John Wesley6, John5, Humphrey4, John3, ?2, ?1) was born on 07 Jul 1888 in Hays Co., TX183-184. She died on 25 Oct 1985 in Lancaster, Los Angeles Co., CA183. She married James David Garrett on 18 Dec 1908 in ME Church South in Driftwood, Hays Co., TX185. He was born on 11 Jan 1885 in TX183-184. He died on 17 Jan 1961 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., CA183.
James David Garrett and Mauna Drue Gilmore had the following children:
i. B01[1]327(11)61 GORDON GLENN9 GARRETT was born on 21 Nov 1909 in Hays or Caldwell Co., TX. He died in May 1970 in Palmdale, Los Angeles Co., CA.
ii. B01[1]327(11)62 AUDREY D. GARRETT was born on 30 Mar 1912 in Caldwell or Travis Co., TX. She died on 08 Jan 2001 in Lancaster, Los Angeles Co., CA.
170. B01[1]327(11)7 FRANCES C. “FANNIE”8 GILMORE (George Shafer7, John Wesley6, John5, Humphrey4, John3, ?2, ?1) was born in Jun 1891 in Hays Co., TX. She died in Jun 1961 in Hays Co., TX. She married John N. Zapalac, son of Joseph F. Zapalac and Agness, in 1921 in Travis Co., TX35. He was born in Dec 1897 in Fayette Co., TX186.
Notes for John N. Zapalac:
According to Peck, John Zapalac left and never came back. I think Peck said he went down into Mexico.
John N. Zapalac and Frances C. “Fannie” Gilmore had the following child:
i. B01[1]327(11)71 GEORGE C.9 ZAPALAC was born on 27 Apr 1923 in Los Angeles Co., CA214.
171. B01[1]327(11)8 SHAFER ALEXANDER8 GILMORE (George Shafer7, John Wesley6, John5, Humphrey4, John3, ?2, ?1) was born on 03 Nov 1894 in Hays Co., TX187-188. He died on 03 May 1965 in Las Vegas, Clark Co., NV188-190. He married (1) CECIL BEATRICE KENNERLY about 1921 in Travis Co., TX5. She was born on 05 Sep 1900 in Travis Co., TX191-193. She died on 05 Jun 1922 in Austin, Travis Co., TX (Oakwood Cem.)192, 194-195. He married (2) ?.
Shafer Alexander Gilmore and Cecil Beatrice Kennerly had the following child:
i. B01[1]327(11)81 BOBBY IRWIN9 GILMORE was born about 1922 in Texas. He died on 08 Jun 1991 in San Juan Capistrano, Orange Co., CA190.
Notes for Bobby Irwin Gilmore:
Peck said he was living in Nevada the last he heard. Wilena Young, stepsister of Bobby’s mom said his middle name was Irwin and gave me his death date and death place.
Shafer Alexander Gilmore and ? had the following child:
ii. B01[1]327(11)82 DAUGHTER GILMORE.
172. B01[1]32931 J. ANGUS8 RITTER (Emily Jane7 Gilmore, Thomas Griffin6 Gilmore, John5 Gilmore, Humphrey4 Gilmore, John3 Gilmore, ?2 Gilmore, ?1 Gilmore) was born about 1875 in Freestone Co., TX. He married Lora about 1896123. She was born about 1875 in TX123.
J. Angus Ritter and Lora had the following children:
i. B01[1]329311 CHILD9 RITTER123 was born about 1897 in TX123.
ii. B01[1]329312 WILLIE FRANK RITTER142 was born about 1903 in TX123.
iii. B01[1]329313 HAZEL RITTER123 was born about 1908 in TX123.
iv. B01[1]329314 VIOLET RITTER123 was born about 1915 in TX123.
173. B01[1]32933 JESSEE N/J8 RITTER (Emily Jane7 Gilmore, Thomas Griffin6 Gilmore, John5 Gilmore, Humphrey4 Gilmore, John3 Gilmore, ?2 Gilmore, ?1 Gilmore) was born in May 1879 in Freestone Co., TX. He married Pearl Viola Powell about 1901 in Freestone Co., TX196. She was born about 1884 in TX123.
Jessee N/J Ritter and Pearl Viola Powell had the following children:
i. B01[1]329331 MAURICE OR MORRIS9 RITTER123 was born about 1902 in TX123.
ii. B01[1]329332 CLIFTON RITTER123 was born about 1904 in TX123.
iii. B01[1]329333 BERTA RITTER123 was born about 1907 in TX123.
iv. B01[1]329334 JACK RITTER123 was born in Jul 1915 in TX123.
174. B01[1]32934 HENRY W.8 RITTER (Emily Jane7 Gilmore, Thomas Griffin6 Gilmore, John5 Gilmore, Humphrey4 Gilmore, John3 Gilmore, ?2 Gilmore, ?1 Gilmore) was born in Feb 1880 in Freestone Co., TX. He married Lillian B about 1905 in OK?197. She was born about 1888 in OK123.
Henry W. Ritter and Lillian B had the following children:
i. B01[1]329341 JESSE W.9 RITTER123 was born about 1906 in OK123.
ii. B01[1]329342 LULA MAY RITTER123 was born about 1907 in OK123.
iii. B01[1]329343 BERYL A. RITTER123 was born about 1908 in NM123.
iv. B01[1]329344 LESTER W. RITTER123 was born about 1910 in OK123.
v. B01[1]329345 LEO RITTER123 was born about 1915 in OK123.
175. B01[1]32935 MARY LEE8 RITTER (Emily Jane7 Gilmore, Thomas Griffin6 Gilmore, John5 Gilmore, Humphrey4 Gilmore, John3 Gilmore, ?2 Gilmore, ?1 Gilmore) was born in May 1883 in Freestone Co., TX. She married Ord Keaton about 1907 in Freestone Co., TX198. He was born about 1882 in TN123.
Ord Keaton and Mary Lee Ritter had the following children:
i. B01[1]329351 LILLIE MAY9 KEATON123 was born about 1910 in Freestone Co.,TX123.
ii. B01[1]329352 RITTER KEATON123 was born about 1914 in Freestone Co., TX123.