Familial Relationships

Origin of Family A Gilmores


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Origin of Family A Gilmores

It is official, Family A and Family B are related!   After a lengthy time of believing these two families were related, I finally have Y-dna results that confirm this belief.  Now it remains to find the common ancestor between these two lines:)  Refer to “Origin of Family B Gilmore” for the possible origins of Family A.

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Familial Relationships

The first two generations of this family are an “interpretation” of some deed records in Lincoln Co., GA between 1796-1803 and what’s “possible” given when these Gilmores seemed to be in the same place at the same time.  It’s  likely that A0[10] John Gilmore and A0[4] James Gilmore are brothers with Priscilla Gilmore Nail possibly being a sister… or daughter of A0[4] James Gilmore.

I have a lot on this family, especially the proposed brothers John Gilmore and James Gilmore but haven’t collated and entered the data into my computer yet so the viewed results on this website will be awhile in coming; however, in the meantime, there is a great expert on the A0[4] James Gilmore Sr. half of the “brothers” who has a tree on ancestry “Gilmore Tartt Family Tree” that is outstanding!  He’s focused on one son right now, James Gilmore Jr. but I suspect he will expand in time to other children of James Gilmore Sr.  His name is John Gilmore, and his username is jgilmore6 on Ancestry.  Not sure if the link will work if you’re not a member.  Let me know if it doesn’t and I’ll get you in contact with him.

A Revolutionary War pension application for A0[10] John Gilmore is used as a guide to establish where he and his proposed brother A0[4] James Gilmore migrated.  It suggests John’s parents were living in Lancaster Co., PA in 1759.   Years later the pension states that A0[10] John Gilmore enlisted in the Rev. War in 1777  in  Cumberland Co., NC.  Cumberland Co., NC which is where the Family B Gilmores were living since 1753.  If A0[10] John Gilmore’s pension application is correct, the two seperate family lines, A & B, lived for about 6 plus years in two seperate states, PA & NC.

If the RW pension application for A0[10] John Gilmore is correct, then land records suggest that Family A (possible parents of A0[4] James and A0[10] John Gilmore) settled in Cumberland Co., NC in 1767/8.  Four families seem to “appear” in Cumberland Co., NC land records in 1767/8: a Hugh Gilmore of Anson Co., NC (20 Oct 1767 on Govenor’s Cr next to Fam. B’s Humphrey & George Gilmore); an Isabel Gilmore (26 Apr 1768 on Crain Cr close to the established John Gilmore m Jane); a John Gilmore (21 Dec 1768 on Shaddock Cr a few miles from Crain Cr); and a Samuel Gilmore Sr. (21 Dec 1768 on Crains Cr).  The Hugh Gilmore of Anson Co., NC is a complete mystery.  Could he somehow be related to the Family N John Gilmor who first showed up in Anson county in 1756?   Isabel Gilmore was originally thought to be the wife of Family B William Gilmore but he is still living in 1767/8 and had moved to Craven Co., SC by then, and the other original Family B Gilmores are also still living in 1767/8 so Isabelle couldn’t be their widow.   Another Gilmore that “appears” in 1767/8 is Samuel Gilmore Sr.    Surely he can’t be Family B John Gilmore’s son as he’d only be 22 at the time.  It is feasible that he is an older Samuel who is the son of one of the other Family B patriarchs at that time, either Hugh or William, and the Sr. was just tacked on to delineate the two Samuels or he could be one of the Gilmores who “appeared” in 1767/8…possibly the one who came to America in 1718?  This hypothesis is just on the possible side  as he would have been at the very least in his 60’s or greater, but where has he been between 1718-1768?  Where was this Samuel when Family B John Gilmore m Jane Heard first showed in Albemarle Co., VA in 1745?  In conclusion, if A0[10] John Gilmore was born in Lancaster Co., PA in 1759 as his pension says, then it’s most likely that one of the 1767/8 arrivals into Cumberland Co., NC are his and A0[4] James Gilmore’s parents.  If the pension is wrong, then one of the original Gilmore’s to this county, B0[1] John Gilmore, B0[2] William Gilmore or B0[3] Hugh Gilmore (not B0[4] Stephen Gilmore) are possible parents to the afor mentioned A lines, John and James.

The first actual record I see of Family A in GA is a Tax Record in Wilkes Co., GA District OO in 1786 of a James Gilmore up until 1790 when both a James and a John Gilmore are listed in the tax polls. John Gilmore was newly married and appears to have had no children. Priscilla appears to have been married in the Lincoln Co., GA area but I haven’t nailed this down yet, nor have I figured out how she is actually related to Family A if at all.  Family A John and James didn’t appear in this county until 1794 according to tax polls for this county.  There was a Hugh Gilmore married to Susannah in this area as early as 1785.  He is either of the 2nd generation from the original Gilmores in Cumberland Co., NC or the original Hugh Gilmore in that county, or the Hugh of Anson Co., NC that went to Cumberland Co., NC in 1767/8.

After living in GA for a time, A0[10] John Gilmore moved into the south part of Alabama in 1803 and the children of James Gilmore moved into Monroe Co., MS about 1819 with a brief foray into TN(about 1813/4-1817/18).

In conclusion, the parents of the first 2 or 3 Family A Gilmores are unknown.  They could be one of the 4 Gilmores who seem to appear in Cumberland Co., NC in 1767/8 or someone else entirely.  A0[10] John Gilmore’s pension application could be misleading as to his actual birth place.  Was he born in PA or could the pension be wrong and he was born in Cumberland Co., NC?  Everything else in his pension application has checked out from other records but his birthplace is the one statement on the application I haven’t been able to confirm and could very likely be off as John Gilmore was an old man who was recalling what he heard about where he was born as a kid.  He could have very well heard stories about the family coming from Lancaster Co., PA and translated that to being “born” in Lancaster Co., PA.

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